1 00:00:00,410 --> 00:00:01,490 - Good morning, Roosters. 2 00:00:01,490 --> 00:00:02,680 Thanks for joining us again today 3 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,530 and I appreciate those who watched the initial video. 4 00:00:03,530 --> 00:00:08,530 We have over 6000 airmen across the globe 5 00:00:08,610 --> 00:00:11,460 and I wanna get the message out to folks. 6 00:00:11,460 --> 00:00:12,970 I wanna talk to everybody 7 00:00:12,970 --> 00:00:15,040 and one way we're gonna do this is 8 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,260 at least once a month I'm gonna sit down with an airman 9 00:00:17,260 --> 00:00:18,950 whether it be here for me 10 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:21,610 or one of our geographically separated units. 11 00:00:21,610 --> 00:00:22,443 I just wanna sit down 12 00:00:22,443 --> 00:00:23,841 and have a quick conversation with folks. 13 00:00:23,841 --> 00:00:25,240 So they can get to know me. 14 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:26,140 I can get to know them 15 00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:28,840 and we can go from there. 16 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,960 But without further ado, 17 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,830 I just wanna introduce my wingman, 18 00:00:32,830 --> 00:00:34,100 Master Sergeant Payne. 19 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,190 We've known each other since I ride in this position. 20 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:38,023 I'll tell you what. 21 00:00:38,023 --> 00:00:40,310 She's a phenomenal master sergeant,. 22 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:41,500 Great attitude. 23 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:42,760 I love her personality 24 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,512 and I'm excited to get started. 25 00:00:44,512 --> 00:00:45,345 - Yes, sir. 26 00:00:45,345 --> 00:00:46,178 - Are you ready to go? 27 00:00:46,178 --> 00:00:47,011 - Yes, chief. 28 00:00:47,011 --> 00:00:48,710 - All right, let's do this. 29 00:00:48,710 --> 00:00:52,180 - So I wanted to ask you something about balancing, 30 00:00:52,180 --> 00:00:53,050 taking care of people 31 00:00:53,050 --> 00:00:54,530 because I know that's important to you 32 00:00:54,530 --> 00:00:56,410 and accomplishing the mission. 33 00:00:56,410 --> 00:00:57,243 How do you do that? 34 00:00:57,243 --> 00:00:58,130 I'm a new flight chief 35 00:00:58,130 --> 00:01:01,380 so I really wanna know how you do that. 36 00:01:01,380 --> 00:01:02,390 - You know people like to say 37 00:01:02,390 --> 00:01:03,320 if you take care of the people, 38 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,693 the people will take care of the mission. 39 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:08,580 I agree with that to an extent 40 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:10,870 but as a leader I offer that 41 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:13,330 you have to be relevant to my mission as well. 42 00:01:13,330 --> 00:01:18,260 Right, we ask our senior NCOs to be tactically relevant, 43 00:01:18,260 --> 00:01:20,570 tactically brilliant, right? 44 00:01:20,570 --> 00:01:21,403 Because they're still 45 00:01:21,403 --> 00:01:24,330 at that frontline leadership level, right? 46 00:01:24,330 --> 00:01:25,890 They're gonna be down in the trenches 47 00:01:25,890 --> 00:01:27,770 with our teammates. 48 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:29,720 So they have to understand the mission. 49 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,743 The challenge is the transition, right? 50 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,770 From you doing all the work 51 00:01:37,770 --> 00:01:39,080 'cause you're the expert, right? 52 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:39,913 You've got the experience 53 00:01:39,913 --> 00:01:41,550 and you know how to make something happen. 54 00:01:41,550 --> 00:01:42,700 You know how to execute 55 00:01:44,380 --> 00:01:45,891 and then letting other people do it. 56 00:01:45,891 --> 00:01:46,724 - I know. 57 00:01:46,724 --> 00:01:47,620 - You wanna jump in there? 58 00:01:47,620 --> 00:01:48,453 - Every time. 59 00:01:48,453 --> 00:01:49,342 - But if you just do that-- 60 00:01:49,342 --> 00:01:50,175 - I know 61 00:01:50,175 --> 00:01:51,008 (laughs) - Right? 62 00:01:52,170 --> 00:01:54,157 That's a challenge at least for me, right? 63 00:01:54,157 --> 00:01:57,100 I mean I offer that most people go through that transition. 64 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,840 - Okay, so I know that sometimes, 65 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,400 I actually love my commander 66 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,110 and I love my leadership-- 67 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:04,530 - I love the shirt 68 00:02:04,530 --> 00:02:05,390 that you guys made (Payne Laughs) 69 00:02:05,390 --> 00:02:06,482 with your commander space all over it. 70 00:02:06,482 --> 00:02:09,000 (both laugh) 71 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,833 - And that's-- 72 00:02:09,833 --> 00:02:12,820 (both laugh) 73 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:14,510 So that's how you know that we love him. 74 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:15,830 Cause we're gonna do-- - Absolutely. 75 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:20,040 - Something like that (laughs) for him. 76 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,870 But sometimes we get in situations 77 00:02:21,870 --> 00:02:24,160 where maybe we don't love our commanders. 78 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,430 Maybe we have leadership that maybe they're difficult. 79 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:31,343 So how can we navigate through that situation? 80 00:02:33,678 --> 00:02:35,880 - Mm, that's a good question, right? 81 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,540 'Cause we all have leaders. 82 00:02:38,540 --> 00:02:39,960 We all have subordinates. 83 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,800 We all have peers that we necessarily 84 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,027 don't see eye to eye with. 85 00:02:43,027 --> 00:02:43,860 - [Payne] Right. 86 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:44,880 - Right, it happens. 87 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,200 I would offer be respectful, 88 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,474 be honest, have frank conversations, 89 00:02:50,474 --> 00:02:54,640 but when you need to have a frank conversation, 90 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,020 you do that stuff in private. 91 00:02:56,020 --> 00:02:57,873 You have a one on one conversation. 92 00:02:58,750 --> 00:03:01,090 Absolutely be respectful and remove emotion 93 00:03:01,090 --> 00:03:02,719 from the conversation. 94 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:04,170 At the end of the day, 95 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:05,903 what is best for the greater good? 96 00:03:05,903 --> 00:03:07,710 For the greater good of the team 97 00:03:07,710 --> 00:03:08,940 to greater good of the mission, 98 00:03:08,940 --> 00:03:10,780 to greater good of the airmen, right? 99 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:13,270 Have honest conversations 100 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:16,780 but understand that there may be a different perspective. 101 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:17,840 - Right. 102 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,673 - Right? 103 00:03:18,673 --> 00:03:20,400 There may be three or four sides to the story 104 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,970 or the intent. 105 00:03:21,970 --> 00:03:23,450 Sometimes things come across 106 00:03:23,450 --> 00:03:25,600 that don't necessarily line with intent 107 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,360 and you know words get lost in email translation, 108 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,240 telephone games. 109 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,860 So be inquisitive, ask questions 110 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:37,070 offer recommendations, right? 111 00:03:37,070 --> 00:03:39,114 But have an honest conversation. 112 00:03:39,114 --> 00:03:40,090 - Okay, yes. 113 00:03:40,090 --> 00:03:41,058 - Does that make sense? 114 00:03:41,058 --> 00:03:41,891 - It does. 115 00:03:41,891 --> 00:03:44,380 - And I'm gonna tell you that's the et al answer to it. 116 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:46,230 You know everyone's different. 117 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:47,980 So there's other approaches out there. 118 00:03:47,980 --> 00:03:49,503 That's how I look at things. 119 00:03:50,860 --> 00:03:52,240 - So I also have a friend 120 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,260 that is in a position, 121 00:03:54,260 --> 00:03:57,520 well, went from a very high paced position 122 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,500 and now they're in a position 123 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,760 where it's just, kind of just, 124 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,480 where it's just humdrum almost. 125 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,820 That's how they feel. 126 00:04:04,820 --> 00:04:07,976 So how can they bloom where they're planted? 127 00:04:07,976 --> 00:04:11,400 What would you recommend for them in that position? 128 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,040 'Cause I'm having trouble coming up with ways 129 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,940 to encourage this. 130 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:17,650 - Sometimes when I have these conversations 131 00:04:17,650 --> 00:04:19,480 with that similar situation 132 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,087 what I hear from folks is, 133 00:04:21,087 --> 00:04:25,013 "Well, this position is gonna hinder promotion." 134 00:04:25,013 --> 00:04:27,020 I'll tell you what. 135 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:28,140 Just be awesome at it 136 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:29,060 no matter what it is. 137 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:30,740 I've looked at all kinds of records 138 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:32,803 and I've seen board results. 139 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:35,280 I have my own experiences 140 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:39,978 and I thought when I was a master sergeant 141 00:04:39,978 --> 00:04:42,530 the job they put me in, 142 00:04:42,530 --> 00:04:43,927 I was one deep. 143 00:04:43,927 --> 00:04:45,000 (Payne laughs) 144 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,833 Right? 145 00:04:45,833 --> 00:04:46,666 - Wow, that's crazy. 146 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,656 - But I wasn't worried about what was next. 147 00:04:49,656 --> 00:04:50,489 - Okay. 148 00:04:51,330 --> 00:04:52,977 - The commander gave me a task and I said, 149 00:04:52,977 --> 00:04:53,810 "Roger, sir. 150 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:55,130 "I'm on it." 151 00:04:55,130 --> 00:04:56,010 I executed it 152 00:04:56,010 --> 00:04:57,410 and got after what he needed 153 00:04:58,630 --> 00:05:01,380 and it was that EPR sitting on top 154 00:05:01,380 --> 00:05:03,180 from our promotion board for senior. 155 00:05:04,202 --> 00:05:05,640 It didn't affect anything. 156 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,300 I was selected for promotion, right? 157 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:10,130 And I'm not saying this is what your friends talk about. 158 00:05:10,130 --> 00:05:13,250 I was just sharing that sometimes when I hear those examples 159 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:15,470 people are concerned about promotion and I'm for, 160 00:05:15,470 --> 00:05:17,979 quit worrying about what's next. 161 00:05:17,979 --> 00:05:18,812 - Okay. 162 00:05:18,812 --> 00:05:20,053 - Let go of that anxiety. 163 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:24,043 Quit focusing on the what's next for Jeremiah. 164 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:26,570 I'm in. 165 00:05:26,570 --> 00:05:27,403 Send me in. 166 00:05:27,403 --> 00:05:28,236 Put me in, coach. 167 00:05:28,236 --> 00:05:29,580 Where do you need me? 168 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:31,870 Now I'm not gonna lie. 169 00:05:31,870 --> 00:05:33,920 When I made senior master sergeant, 170 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,070 I was non-vol'd to Korea 171 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:37,640 and it ended up being a remote tour 172 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,637 and initially I was like, 173 00:05:38,637 --> 00:05:40,837 "Man, this is not the right time for Jeremiah. 174 00:05:40,837 --> 00:05:41,870 "I don't wanna go." 175 00:05:41,870 --> 00:05:42,703 Right? 176 00:05:44,620 --> 00:05:46,410 But it's where the Air Force needed me. 177 00:05:46,410 --> 00:05:48,730 And outside of being away from my family, 178 00:05:48,730 --> 00:05:51,210 that was one of my best assignments. 179 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:52,100 I loved the mission. 180 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,400 I loved the environment in Korea. 181 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,860 I loved the comradery that comes 182 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:57,803 with being in a remote assignment. 183 00:05:59,630 --> 00:06:02,290 So I got over the emotions of that real quick. 184 00:06:02,290 --> 00:06:03,730 We all go through that. 185 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:04,890 'Cause it's not what we want, 186 00:06:04,890 --> 00:06:06,710 but it's easier to get through it 187 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:07,870 when you know it's not about you. 188 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:09,143 It's the greater good. 189 00:06:10,730 --> 00:06:14,370 - Well, chief, I just thank you for this opportunity 190 00:06:14,370 --> 00:06:17,370 to spend this time with you, 191 00:06:17,370 --> 00:06:18,710 to get to know you better 192 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:21,820 and hopefully the people learn more 193 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:22,840 about their command chief, 194 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:24,923 so I appreciate you. 195 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:27,680 - Thank you so much for spending time with me 196 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,250 and I'll tell you what. 197 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:30,630 From the first time I met you 198 00:06:30,630 --> 00:06:33,960 when you were working in the OSS right next door, 199 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,980 you caught my attention 200 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:36,900 and it's because you're being genuine, 201 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:38,653 you're being yourself, right? 202 00:06:40,138 --> 00:06:42,280 And I am so happy that you were selected 203 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:43,473 to be a flight chief. 204 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,370 'Cause I'll tell you what. 205 00:06:46,370 --> 00:06:48,350 My time as a flight chief, 206 00:06:48,350 --> 00:06:49,840 an Op-Sup and a Squadron Sup 207 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,330 were some of the best times in my career. 208 00:06:52,330 --> 00:06:55,300 So what I offer is keep being you 209 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:56,690 and enjoy every day of it. 210 00:06:56,690 --> 00:06:58,070 - [Payne] Oh, thank you, chief. 211 00:06:58,070 --> 00:07:00,563 - 'Cause it's gonna go by before you know it. 212 00:07:01,500 --> 00:07:02,756 I appreciate you, my friend. 213 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:03,589 - Thank you. 214 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:05,978 - Thanks for being awesome. - Thank you. 215 00:07:05,978 --> 00:07:07,452 (Payne laughs)